Where does John Rambo stand politically? Aside from being a loner, a one-man war, and the many other epithets he’s been given over five movies, plus a cartoon series for kids and more, how would he vote, if at all? David Morrell’s book was originally developed for Martin Scorsese and Robert DeNiro, so one imagines that the account of government vs individual featured in the first film would smack of some kind of liberalism, or at least neutrality. But by the time of this 1985 sequel, Ronald Reagan was in the White House, the inglorious past had been forgotten and a new cartoonish future was being forged. Historians may note that back in the 80’s, 138 of Reagan’s administration officials were subject to investigation, indictment, or conviction, so a little upbeat propaganda to change the mood was in order.
So although Rambo 2 claims to be based on the characters created by Morrell, the overall effect is almost the exact opposite as in First Blood. Instead of fighting against the establishment, Rambo now fights for them, albeit reluctantly. Rambo is smashing stones in a rural labour work camp when Col Trautman (Richard Crenna) approaches him to go back to Vietnam and locate US soldiers left behind after the war. Rambo agrees, but is double-crossed by the authorities, so once he’s completed his mission, rescued the POWs’ and killed everyone else, Rambo heads back to the US to shoot up the offices of the double-dealing corporate zeros who sent him on his way.
George P Cosmatos’ action game-changer is a surprisingly slow burn; not much has happened after an hour of this 96 minute film, but the last half hour makes up for it by offering non-stop carnage. Stallone is credited as writer here alongside James Cameron, who brings a little of his Terminator relentlessness to the narrative. Stallone still glowers like the old John Rambo, but now comes complete with a ridiculous physique that the camera pores over like a car advert depicts a new car, and all kind of military gadgets like grenade launchers. This isn’t much like any real war, it’s a video game set to easy, and the pumped-up action feels more like a playground fantasy than any kind of actual real-world conflict.
I re-watched Rambo: First Blood Part II as part of assessing StudioCanal’s streaming channel; probably the most popular of the five films, it’s also one of the most neglected, possibly because it’s seen as having the most overt political messaging. But Rambo isn’t so much of a Republican or Democrat fantasy, but an adolescent one of killing baddies with impunity. If the first film was about survival, this one sets up a new and unlikely scenario through which Rambo, like Rocky, can not only endure suffering but win. It’s a visceral, ridiculous film that reworks genuine veterans issues to create a comic-book of justified war. Ronald Reagan apparently loved it, and it’s still kinda fun to watch despite the head-spinning hypocrisy of watching Rambo kill 75 times and then walk off into the sunset to a song titled Peace in Our Life, performed via the unique vocal stylings of Sylvester’s brother Frank.
This got a one-screening reissue some time back and I was hoping to get to see it again. I doubt if anyone then or now was much bothered about the politics. it’s an action picture. And thank goodness Scorsese never got to direct it.
He was mooted for the first one, but I think I’m more than happy with Kotcheff’s version, he really dialed that film back, played down the mythic qualities that the other films went bananas with. This film seems to be in some disrepute, but it’s got a certain raw majesty at times.
Stallone was in disrepute most of his career in part because he and Arnie made such colossal sums and were seen as driving the common denominator down to the lowest global point.
Not in my house. Proper man of the people hero.
Is Rambo II a Republican or Democrat movie ? Very good question. When you look at it, it seems to be Reaganish propaganda, but it’s counting without Jim Cameron (which is many things but a lady 😉). Stallone is the right side and Cameron is a lefty, defending blue collars and heroes of the last row in his ow movies. If Johnny R goes back to the dirty war first, I think it’s not win that bloody time, but to rescue the old companions like him. And the rightist government behind is a filthy betrayer. I’m not sure of that but it could make sense, don’t you think?
Got another theory for the first First Blood but it’s in my own review so… 😉
Anyway, the “playground” answer should be the cleverest escape.
Your critique was fairer than most. Per (Canadian born) Morrell, ‘Rambo died at conclusion of book 1, end of story.’ However, xenophobia lives as does the retelling of US imperialism… The line I best remember from Rambo II ‘do we get to win this time?’ It morphed into something darker in Rambo III-V (I and III are my favorites), best captured with ‘old men start it, young men fight it, no one wins, everyone in the middle dies, and no one tells the truth.’ However, we can.
And I think Rmabo was meant to die at the end of the first film. The Rambo in the second film may be similarly dour and skillful, but his powers have risen to a supernatural level. I’m fond of all the Rambo films, but the politics is never quite the same twice. He’s similtaneously pro-peace and the greatest fighter ever, and these elements are rarely balanced well. And yet you don’t have to any any grasp of politics to enjoy the simple pleasure of cinematic war, a can’t lose scenario in which Rambo alaways comes out on to while decrying the sport he’s the world champion of. The first one, as usual, is the best, but I’m intrigued by your positivism about the third, often seen as the worst. The truth, as you suggest, is not invited to the party in this franchise…
When I was a kid, I thought Rambo and Rocky were the same character. I understood that actors were playing roles, but I thought it was a Clark Kent-Superman situation. No clue why I thought this, but it was such a shock when I realized the truth. Also not sure why I was watching these films at a young enough age to believe that!
Well, I can totally see why you might think that they were the same. That’s what I was getting at when I said the first film was about survival, the second was about winning. That works for both Rocky and Rambo films. The First Rambo film is still pretty awesome, but I can imagine this would be light relief for you after The Bear!
I could never take any of the Rambo movies seriously whatever politics they’re trying to incorporate, the daft carnage was way too much fun.
I’m beginning to think that every Rambo film is different from a political point of view. War is no laughing matter, but these sequels really don’t need to be taken any more seriously than the war comics we used to read at school.
Exactly so. Rambo 5 was a hoot!
Totally. In fact the last three, the grimmer they get, the more amusing they are! Perhaps not how they were intended…
So I’ve noticed in your comments on my site that you’ve been reversing genders and now I see you do it here. What prompted that?
Human error.
Does this mean you are applying for Humanhood at the UN next week then?
James Cameron is a lovely lady and I’m sticking to my story.
That you are human? You go, hooman!
Still trying to decipher this one…
Let me give you a guided tour through the sick, sick mind of Bookstooge then 🙂
1) You claim human error in your first response
2) I make witty repartee about you finally making a claim to be a human.
3) You claim that you are sticking to your story about being human (implications being that there is something obvious that denies such claims)
4) I congratulate you on your bold faced lie and metaphorically pat you on your head using the term “hooman”.
5) My genius earth humor is too much for your neptunian culture, hence the confusion.
6) The Enlightened One brings the peace of understanding to all and we all live happily ever after….
Got it, but I’m still trying to figure out the stuff about King Louis being ill?
I was referencing the french king who got his head chopped off…
In the jungle book?
In History.
With a capital H! The real deal!
Exactly. In the History Book….
Bookywook of Historical FACTS!
fAcT!
sadly, covid’s a fact right now too. We’ll see how the second go-around goes 🙂
Sorry to hear that, everything ok?
So far, nothing like the previous time. This is just a headache and achiness with fever. I’m taking an antigen test right now, but considering how I feel and the fact that my coworker came down iwth it on tuesday, I’m 99% sure I have it…
Best act like you have it and take it easy. Apparently these strains are weaker than the early ones, but I’d go with your instinct and take care of yourself. Anything I can do to help, gravel pizza slipped under your door, give me a shout!
I’ll take whatever Rambo took to turn him from John Rambo into RAMBO.
I’ll send over steroids and a lobotomy kit asap…
Stat!
And a bandana
Make it a white one so I can dip into the blood of my enemies…
Will look good in green when you catch a predator!
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Applies to commies too…
Easy tiger, I’ll send you a training montage too…
Yeah, I need whatever shortcuts I can take….
The carnage you mention always made me compare these movies to slasher flicks. When Rambo goes on the hunt you’re just watching people being killed. That’s the whole point of the movie.
locate US soldiers, and James Cameron has gender swapped.
That’s news to me but congrats to him! I must have seen that coming!